Kat Katz Opens Up About Her Exit From Agoraphobic Nosebleed & Misogyny In Metal

Back in October 2018, Kat Katz left Agoraphobic Nosebleed after saying she was “tired of being bullied by dudes.” The band then responded by saying the split came about when the vocalist worried them by disappearing after a show in Quebec. However, when she did contact them later on, they yelled at her for not keeping in touch, which she saw as “overprotective behavior” that “belittled” her. She then followed up by saying her departure “symbolized the end of a series of uncomfortable events.” Now, during a recent interview with Cvlt Nation, Katz further discussed her departure from the band, as well as misogyny in metal.

Katz said the following about her exit, while also revealing that one of her ex-bandmates came on to her physically:

“The band dynamics seemed to deteriorate when I began expressing opinions more openly. My former bandmate is not used to people disagreeing with him, and I don’t think it helped any that I’m a woman. I believe that the major reason it fell apart so quickly is that weeks before I left, he had come on to me physically in a way that made me highly uncomfortable. I wasn’t expecting it. We had stayed in the same hotel room numerous times and nothing had ever happened. It felt disrespectful not only to me, but to his significant other, and put me in a terrible position. I don’t know how he expected that situation to culminate in any way that wasn’t destructive to the band and his relationship.”

She added the following when asked if she had any similar experiences in Salome:

“I thought I had a good friendship with the drummer in Salome. When he decided he wanted a sexual relationship and I said no, he resorted to the typical pattern of bullying and gaslighting. For years, I kept trying to make our relationship work as bandmates until I realized I was the only one of us trying. I promised myself then that I wouldn’t pay the price for someone else’s selfishness again. When my ANb bandmates showed the same disrespect for me, I left before they did more damage.”

She went on to discuss misogyny in the metal scene:

“Every woman fights the stereotype of ‘hysterical female,’ and I was extremely disappointed in my bandmates for exploiting that trope. The amount of narcissism, drama, and insecurity I witness from men in metal is astounding and yields no consequences; the tantrums are accepted without the bat of an eye. As a woman, you show anger, you speak out, and you’re automatically labeled as ‘crazy.’”

She later added:

“I think misogyny and racism will always be a problem. But I hold out hope that the culture can become more inclusive. People need to speak out whenever they encounter bigotry and not be bystanders to abuse. I don’t know that we will ever get through to the people who lack empathy, but we can try, and we can at least deter the abusive behavior.”

Katz also said the following when asked about performing and what she wants other women to get out of seeing her take the stage:

“I don’t think I’d be alive today without using music and art to process experiences and emotions. My childhood included sexual assault and being the primary caregiver to a parent with untreated schizophrenia and lack of insight. She used to lock us in the house with chairs pressed up against the doors. As a child, I felt powerless, and that feeling stayed with me long after I left home. When I’m on stage, I feel powerful. I’m beyond the traumas of the past. I’m beyond rigid gender stereotypes. And I am heard. I want other women to see that there are no limits to self-expression. You don’t have to live the life you were born to.”

She later discussed her current plans:

“I’ve decided to take a few more classes and gain some research experience before applying to clinical psychology PhD programs. In the meantime, I’m a counselor for people who were chronically homeless and live with severe mental illness, developmental disabilities, and substance use problems. In regard to new music, I’m very excited about a song I have coming out May 3rd on Adult Swim’s Metal Swim 2 Compilation. I collaborated with Andy Gibbs of Thou, and it was such a fun and meaningful experience. It was my first time having a major role in writing the music. The compilation includes artists Sunn O))), Baroness, Dark Castle, The Body, and many other awesome bands.”

You can read more from Katz at Cvlt Nation,

Kat Katz Issues New Statement On Her Departure From Agoraphobic Nosebleed, Says It “Symbolized The End Of A Series Of Uncomfortable Events”

Kat Katz recently exited Agoraphobic Nosebleed after saying she is “tired of being bullied by dudes.” The band then offered a brief comment on the situation, before responding with a more detailed statement saying Katz disappeared after their Quebec show and they started getting worried. She ended up getting in contact with them later on and explained she was helping someone with a “mental health emergency”, but they ended up yelling at her for not keeping in touch. Katz felt this “overprotective behavior” ultimately “belittled” her. Now, after all that, she has issued another statement saying her departure “symbolized the end of a series of uncomfortable events [she has] experienced over the last several weeks with the band.”

Here’s Katz’s latest statement:

“My decision to leave Agoraphobic Nosebleed after our appearance at Quebec Deathfest in Montreal symbolized the end of a series of uncomfortable events I have experienced over the last several weeks with the band. These experiences included situations in which I felt my presence as an equal member was no longer respected, and my gender served as a reason to belittle my presence and my opinion on the personal dynamics and inner workings of the band.

As someone who has performed within the extreme music scene for many years and remained (to my own detriment) quiet about experiences prior to my work with AnB of harassment and sexualized bullying, I decided that for my own well-being, the cycle of misogyny, overt and unwanted sexual behavior directed towards me had to stop.

While I considered quitting immediately after our show in Montreal, I first consulted with several of my close friends to see if I could cope with what happened because I loved playing in this band and despite our differences, respected my musical colleagues. However, after considering the disrespect demonstrated towards me as a musician, a woman, and as a prominent member of AnB, I decided to leave.

The response by my former bandmates to my decision has been extremely disappointing, but not entirely surprising. Unfortunately, it is common for people to assume that women’s accounts of harassment come from a place of hysteria and hypersensitivity, versus the responses by their male colleagues that for the most part, are perceived as “the truth” – especially within a male-dominated musical genre and culture.

I am saddened that my decision to leave has caused additional strife, but despite that, I wish my former musical colleagues the best in their future endeavors.”

Agoraphobic Nosebleed Offer More Detailed Explanation For Kat Katz’s Departure, Katz Responds

Kat Katz recently exited Agoraphobic Nosebleed after saying she is “tired of being bullied by dudes.” Now, the band have issued a more detailed statement explaining the situation that led to her departure.

The group said the following:

“If you watch footage from Agoraphobic Nosebleed’s Quebec Deathfest set from Saturday October 20, you’ll see a band of four people completely harmonious and happy to be preforming music together. Katherine Katz has been with us in ANb since around 2007-2008 and we have been fortunate to work with her. Since that time, Kat has always been treated with respect as a person and as an artist and every bit as an equal to any other member of the band.

In fact, an entire EP (‘Arc’) was written specifically for her artistic aesthetic in which she could revisit the slower, doomier music she has always loved. We transitioned ANb into playing live in 2014 because of her and Rich’s desire to do so. Kat and I have been in discussion more than any other members over the direction of the new CD. This is not to say we haven’t had minor fights here and there, because we have. No different than any other band.

After the show around 3:30 a.m. on October 21, we all loaded the Uber with our gear to meet back at the hotel. John [Jarvis, bassist] was taking the gear in the Uber and the rest of us were to walk and meet him there to unload. When we got there, Rich [Johnson, co-vocalist] and I realized Kat had not arrived with John in the Uber. We texted her to find out if she needed help or was just off doing her own thing.

After loading the gear into the hotel, she still hadn’t responded, so we all felt that we had to go back and look for her in the event something did happen to her. I texted and called her once or twice more in case her phone was buried somewhere, and she couldn’t hear the notifications—but I received no reply. Returning to the club, John, Rich, and I found no one who knew where she was.

After 45 minutes or so she replied that she was fine and that she was helping some person who was having an apparent mental emergency. I told her that we were worried about her and that she should have told us what she was doing. I yelled it actually, because we were genuinely concerned and had mobilized to go find her. The rest of the evening was spent in silence. The next day flying home Rich also expressed how angry he was that Kat had trivialized his (and our) concern to another person earlier that morning.

A couple of days later, Kat wrote an email to the entire band, explaining that she understood our concern but that she was an independent woman and didn’t appreciate being treated unequally from other members, even claiming that we wouldn’t have been so worried about any other band member in a similar situation.

The email thread went back and forth between all members until Kat finally felt that she was being ganged up on, and she quit the band. No pejorative words were used. No disrespect was conveyed.

We have always loved Kat as an artist, and as a person, and have valued her role in the band. We wish this could have been worked out in another way. But we certainly wish her well.

These are the events as they happened. We yelled at Kat during this time not because she’s a woman, it’s because we had no idea what happened to her, had cause for concern to find her, and when we eventually found her and expressed that we were upset, she regarded that as an attack and felt bullied.

Which, while maybe unpleasant because emotions were running high, it most definitely was not. We are not trying to devalue that she feels we all ganged up on here and we are sorry for how that developed, but it was only out of concern for her and trying to get her to understand that concern.”

Katz has since responded as well:

“I’m responding to the recent ANb post. Yes, I was trying to help someone having a mental health emergency. At that time, I was out of touch for about 45 minutes. The hotel was 5 minutes away. It was a Saturday night and busy. I was screamed at when I returned outside the hotel, in the hotel room, and in the airport.

I was in tears for most of the trip. Dude was screaming at me while I was balling my eyes out. I grew up in a household where I was screamed at by my mother with schizophrenia. I was locked in the house for a good portion of my childhood. My mother thought I had aids my whole life because of her paranoia.

I cannot handle overprotective behavior. I was belittled. I was treated like a child. I am a 34-year-old women. And I would rather die than be treated like this again.”

Kat Katz Exits Agoraphobic Nosebleed, Says She’s “Tired Of Being Bullied By Dudes”

Kat Katz has announced her departure from Agoraphobic Nosebleed. She said the following:

“Tired of being bullied by dudes. Salome and now Agoraphobic Nosebleed. I quit Agoraphobic Nosebleed tonight. Hopefully, I find a band that respects me and treats me as an equal.”

The band also commented:

“News update: We’ve had some disagreements with Kat about how we should interact in the band, and as a result she quit. We wish her well with music in the future. Scott has some writing and recording to wrap up with Pig Destroyer, and after that he’ll start writing music for the next ANb record.”

Agoraphobic Nosebleed Stream “Arc” In Full

Agoraphobic Nosebleed are streaming their new EP, “Arc,” in its entirety, via Noisey. The effort will be released on January 22, and will be the first of four EPs, which each showcase musical influences of specific band members. This one focuses on Kat Katz.

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Agoraphobic Nosebleed Premiere New Song “Deathbed”

Agoraphobic Nosebleed have premiered a new song titled “Deathbed,” via Metal Sucks. This song is from the band’s new EP, Arc, which will be released on January 22. This will be the first of four EPs, which each showcase musical influences of specific band members. This one focuses on Kat Katz.

Agoraphobic Nosebleed Premiere New Song “Not A Daughter”

Agoraphobic Nosebleed have premiered a new song titled “Not A Daughter,” via NPR. This song is from the band’s new EP, Arc, which will be released on January 22. This will be the first of four EPs, which each showcase musical influences of specific band members. This one focuses on Kat Katz.

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The band are also planning re-release “Frozen Corpse Stuffed With Dope” and “Altered States Of America” on vinyl. Those will be available on January 22 as well.