Phil Anselmo On Infamous Dimebash Incident: “I Owned That Moment”

Phil Anselmo (Pantera, etc.) was previously interviewed by Decibel about his infamous “white power” chant and Nazi salute at Dimebash, but now he has talked about it further in a recent interview with The Classic Metal Show. You listen to the chat and see what he had to say below:

“I would say to any critic out there that has terrible things to say about me, look, I owned that moment—I owned the moment. And it was a dumb, dumb move on my part, because I’ve dealt with hecklers before. Basically, I was showing the ugly, I was playing a part; it was an ugly gesture. And I’ve said this before: look, if that joke is not funny anymore and it’s worn its welcome out, then so be it. I can grow as well.

And look, if I truly, truly upset anyone with that gesture and those two words, then you know, my apology is sincere. But then there’s the flipside where I get the feeling that if you look through a certain lens long enough and you’re desperately trying to spot something, you’re gonna eventually find it, no matter what is; no matter how vague it may be, you’re gonna find something. Me? I was blatant. I was blatant and doing what I did on purpose, but with a sense of humor behind it.

And anyone with a logical mind knows—knows for a damn fact—that my love extends to every person in this crazy world of all colors, creeds, kinds, shapes, sizes, sexual preference… you name it, I’m for you , baby; I’m on your side… I just think that sometimes these certain people that do look through these lenses, perhaps—and maybe this is just speculation, but perhaps—like they used to say on the schoolyard, ‘It takes one to know one,’ or maybe the fact that you’re looking through this lens is kind of showing who you are as well. Enough of this you know? Enough of that. I own it, I apologized, my apology was sincere, you can look it up.”

Phil Anselmo Discusses Infamous Dimebash Incident In Latest Issue Of Decibel

Phil Anselmo (Pantera, etc.) has given his first official interview since his infamous “white power” chant and Nazi salute at Dimebash. You can read what he had to say in the latest issue of Decibel below.

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“First and foremost, I do take full accountability. I’m not deflecting at all. What I did was insulting, absolutely, and abhorrent, because it did truly upset people, and it hurts my heart that anyone would think that I’m the dreaded ‘R’ word — a racist. Anyone who truly knows me knows that it’s utterly ridiculous. But if I did offend my Jewish friends, people I work with, my associates, other people in bands . .. if I were to upset people in that particular way — that’s why I apologized. That apology is there — and no, you won’t get another one ever again.”

Anselmo then added:

“It’s kinda funny, considering I’ve got a Mexican drummer [Jose “Blue” Gonzalez] and a half-black guitar player. [Kevin Bond]”

He continued:

“First and foremost, I was absolutely smashed drunk,” he said. “No excuse, but I was. It was late and my mood was mixed because of the situation in general. We were honoring my dead, murdered guitar player and it’s still something that a piece of me has not come to grips with. I know people are reading this in black and white, but it makes my heart ache as I say it. Now, [from] the second I stepped on that stage until the bitter end of that night, there were a couple of kids with an absolute agenda constantly, all night long, calling me the dreaded ‘R’ word. ‘Racist, racist, racist,’ over and over and over-in between songs, during songs, during my stage banter. And I marked it: At 4:35 in the video, you can see my attention slowly beginning to get irked and agitated. By 5:10, you can see me actually eyeballing these people and engaging. They were 70 feet away from me screaming this shit. I even invited them up onstage and dared them to call me that to my fuckin’ face, and I said I would knock them out cold. You can check the video for yourself. Can you hear the kids? No, you can’t. But I most certainly did. And I’ve talked with people who were there who can corroborate because they were standing right next to them.”

He also added:

“Should I have done it? Hell fucking no. Would I take it back? Absolutely. But my sense of humor is dark and my temper is and always has been volatile, so I reacted. I reacted in an ignorant way. I own it. But do I believe in it? That’s ridiculous.”

Anselmo said the whole incident started as a joke about white wine, which apparently started after he kissed Doug Pinnick (KING’S X). Anselmo said the following about that:

“The white wine thing was a running joke backstage after — get this — kissing Doug Pinnick [of KING’S X] on the lips, and he says to me, ‘Whoa — you taste good!’ Because I was drinking a bottle of white wine. I even joked about it with him — ‘white power,’ hahaha. The funny thing about that is that particular room was for certain artists only. Other certain people who were part of the Dimebash were not allowed back there. I guess they felt slighted or in quotation marks — ‘offended.’ So, there was a running gag there, and it carried on even after the incident. What went down onstage was an extension of that, but also a firm reaction to these motherfuckers [up front], who, that’s exactly what they wanted.”

To read the whole interview, head to Decibel.

Pantera Stream Early Mix Of “Drag The Waters” From 20th Anniversary Edition Of “The Great Southern Trendkill”

Pantera are sreaming an early mix of their track “Drag The Waters,” via Rolling Stone. This version of the song is from the 20th anniversary edition of “The Great Southern Trendkill,“ which will be released on October 21.

Click the LINK to go to the stream.

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Phil Anselmo said the following:

“I wrote the lyrics about a buddy of mine who was getting married. The young lady he was gonna marry sucked. She was some asshole judge’s daughter, and she came from this high-and-mighty household. I believe I had a heart-to-heart with him about her and said, ‘You might wanna drag the waters with that one, there’s bodies – she’s ruined – in there.’ Hence, upon remembrance, I wrote the lyrics.”

Pantera Stream Early Mix Of “Floods” From 20th Anniversary Edition Of “The Great Southern Trendkill”

Pantera are sreaming an early mix of their track “Floods,” via Guitar World. This version of the song is from the 20th anniversary edition of “The Great Southern Trendkill,“ which will be released on October 21.

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Vinnie Paul Says Phil Anselmo Has “Done A Lot Of Things That Tarnish” Pantera’s Image

HELLYEAH were recently interviewed by R7, and during the chat Vinnie Paul was asked about his ex-bandmate Phil Anselmo’s racist outburst at Dimebash. Vinnie Paul responded by saying that the vocalist has “done a lot of things that tarnish the image” of Pantera.

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Here’s what he had to say (transcribed by Blabbermouth):

“I can’t speak for him. He’s done a lot of things that tarnish the image of what Pantera was back then and what it stood for and what it was all about. And it’s sad. But I carry on with what I do, which is HELLYEAH, which I’m very, very proud of. And, you know, I can’t control anything that goes on with that dude. I mean, honestly, I haven’t spoken to him since 2000. So there you have it.”

He also added the following about trying to runite with Anselmo, before Dimebag’s tragic death:

“Nothing ever transpired. We tried to make amends of things when we were doing Damageplan, and he didn’t want anything to do with it. And then the horrible thing that happened to my brother happened. And, to me, that was the nail in the coffin. Period.”