Ben Weinman Reflects On The End Of The Dillinger Escape Plan

During an interview on Revolver‘s “Songs For Black Days” podcast, Suicidal Tendencies guitarist Ben Weinman reflected on the end of his former band The Dillinger Escape Plan. The musician says he believes “it was not really healthy” to keep the group going.

Weinman said the following:

“I’m proud of Dillinger [but] I feel that it was not really healthy to stay in it. I feel like we were not going to create music that was as inspired if we didn’t intentionally and purposely end in a way that was consistent with how we lived in that band and created that band and wrote music and stuff from the beginning. Like I said, the intention, like, everything has a purpose. So I don’t miss it. Honestly. But I’m very proud of it.”

He also added the following about his current relationship with vocalist Greg Puciato:

“I’m glad he’s doing cool stuff and making cool stuff. He’s out there in L.A. doing his thing. That’s where he is. It’s not really for me. We have different values and different ways of life. And that’s OK. I think we have different values and different ways of doing things and different loyalties and things like that. I’m just the same guy as I always was. I have the same friends from when I was a kid. I still live in New Jersey. I still hang out with parents. I still feel the same way. I feel the same person that sat and made those albums in his room with a 4-track.

I think with me, similar to Mike [Muir] in Suicidal, I’ve probably hurt the band from succeeding as much as I helped the band succeed. You know, that’s something that, when Q Prime was managing Suicidal Tendencies, and they were trying to bring them up with the Metallica and the thrash bands that were doing well, the guy’s so stubborn about his ways that they realized … I think someone there said, ‘You are simultaneously the thing that will make this band huge, and also make the band never huge.’

You know, I’ve always felt that what you say no to defines you more than what you say yes to. And so, yeah, I mean, I feel like I stuck to my guns. And I tried really hard to keep and maintain the values of the band from the beginning.”

As noted by The PRP, Weinman also addressed The Dillinger Escape Plan’s demise while discussing MRC‘s decision to cancel their Kanye West documentary due to the rapper’s anti-Semitic comments:

“Very well said. I do not believe in censorship but there are always consequences and if anything, 20 years of creating and performing Dillinger Escape Plan music has taught me that we are often defined by what we do not do. What we do not accept or want to be associated with. @mrc is losing upwards of $10 million by not releasing this film. A company owned ny a Muslim, a Christian, and a Jew.

There were many decisions I made, sometimes in protest to the other band members, for these reasons. Including ending the band when we did. @Mike Muir and @suicidaltendencies have conducted themselves in this way from before I was born and I’m proud to be along for the ride. Please speak out.”

The Dillinger Escape Plan & Mike Patton Announce 20th Anniversary Vinyl Reissue Of “Irony Is A Dead Scene”

The Dillinger Escape Plan and Mike Patton (Faith No More, Mr. Bungle, etc.) will be releasing a 20th anniversary vinyl edition of their collaborative EP, “Irony Is A Dead Scene,” on May 13. Pre-orders are available HERE.

The Dillinger Escape Plan To Celebrate Fifth Anniversary Of “Dissociation” With New NFT Collection

The Dillinger Escape Plan will be celebrating the fifth anniversary of their final album “Dissociation” with a new NFT collection. The digital pieces were created in collaboration with artist Oleg Rooz.

More details were shared in a press release:

“There will be 12 visuals in total — one for all 11 songs on the album, while “Surrogate” has two versions.

The NFTs are either brand new, never-before-released, or reimagined animated visuals from the album campaign. 10 are remakes, while there are two brand new versions for “Surrogate” and “Dissociation.”

Each NFT is one-of-a-kind.

The list of NFTs is below.

1. “Limerent Death”
2. “Symptom Of Terminal Illness”
3. “Wanting Not So Much To As To”
4. “Fugue”
5. “Low Feels Blvd”
6. “Surrogate” (V.1)
7. “Surrogate” (V.2/New)
8. “Honeysuckle”
9. “Manufacturing Discontent”
10. “Apologies Not Included”
11. “Nothing To Forget”
12. “Dissociation” (New)”

A visual for “Limerent Death” can be found HERE.

Greg Puciato On The Possibility Of The Dillinger Escape Plan Returning One Day: “At Some Point Five Or Six Years From Now, Maybe There Will Be Room In All Our Lives Where This Thing Can Live”

During a recent interview with Revolver, Greg Puciato talked a bit about his former band The Dillinger Escape Plan. While discussing a possible reunion, the frontman said “at some point five or six years from now, maybe there will be room in all [their] lives where this thing can live.” However, he went on to say that the “time does not exist right now.”

Puciato said the following when asked if he missed anything about The Dillinger Escape Plan:

“I don’t miss the expectation that you have to make a record and go on tour for two or three years. It’s like a time warp, dude. You make a record when you’re 30, and when you finish touring it, you’re 33. But you didn’t grow — you only played a bunch of shows.

So you end up becoming psychologically trapped at age 24 when you’re really 38 because all your life has been in this bubble with these other people who are trapped in there with you and no one’s able to grow outside of the bubble.

No matter who I meet from other bands, that’s what happens. You only grow as a person when you’re not on tour or in the studio, and that’s not that much time. You’re trying to cram all this growth into the four months you’re home, and it’s unrealistic.

You meet other people your age who have had all this life experience and all you’ve done is play ‘Panasonic Youth‘ 2,000 times. [Laughs] You have all these sick memories, but it’s a different reality. So I feel like we’ve all grown more in the last two years than we have in the previous 10.

But I do miss the intensity of the shows, when we were all in synch and we could all objectively say, ‘That was sick.’ And there weren’t that many of them that all of us would say that about. But I don’t miss being in an active band that takes up 200 percent of my life.

And I don’t miss the expectation of, ‘This is your full time thing, and everything else is a side project.’ Because right now, nothing’s a side project and nothing’s a full-time thing. So when the inevitable question comes up, ‘Would you guys ever get back together?’ the first thing I say is, ‘If you knew me, you wouldn’t ask that.’”

He also added:

“But the other answer is: If it were to happen, it would be in such a drastically different context than what a fan would be thinking of. It wouldn’t be about turning a full-time thing on and off.

At some point five or six years from now, maybe there will be room in all our lives where this thing can live and we can all be happy with where it’s living, but that time does not exist right now.

I’d never make one thing the main thing for me ever again. What’s exciting to me now is not doing the same thing over and over again. I want to see how I can grow and learn and make myself uncomfortable.”

Ben Weinman Reflects On The Dillinger Escape Plan’s Final Show Two Years Later

Yesterday (December 29), marked the second anniversary of The Dillinger Escape Plan’s final show at Terminal 5 in New York, NY. Guitarist Ben Weinman recently reflected on that via Instagram:

The Dillinger Escape Plan Digitally Release 2000 Live Album “Live Infinity”

The Dillinger Escape Plan recently released a 20th anniversary edition of “Calculating Infinity,” along with a bonus live album titled “Live Infinity.“ The live record, which was recorded in October 2000, has since received a digital release and can be streamed below:

The Dillinger Escape Plan’s “Calculating Infinity” & “Miss Machine” To Receive New Vinyl Pressings

The Dillinger Escape Plan will be celebrating the 20th anniversary of “Calculating Infinity” and the 15th anniversary of “Miss Machine” by releasing new limited edition, super deluxe vinyl pressings on November 29. Pre-orders can be found HERE.

Greg Puciato (The Dillinger Escape Plan) To Release New Book “Separate The Dawn”

Greg Puciato (The Dillinger Escape Plan, The Black Queen) will be releasing his first book, “Separate The Dawn,” on February 12 via Federal Prisoner. The 226 page book will feature a collection of poetry, photography, etc. that was written and taken during The Dillinger Escape Plan’s final year and a half. A limited edition hardcover version can be pre-ordered HERE.

Puciato commented:

“This is the heaviest and most brutal, but ultimately positive and necessary piece, in a series of thematically connected output for me, during what I now see as a long transitional arc, of realization, processing, shedding, accepting, and then finally coming out of the other side into a different place. A walk through a broken mirror.

Chronologically this goes after ‘Dissociation,’ and before ‘Infinite Games.’ It’s also a surprising and welcome reconnection with a medium that was my first creative love, even before music, and an equally surprising fascination with a new one.

I guess it’s essentially my first (and maybe only) solo release. Thanks to everyone who picks this up, for continuing to encourage me to keep creating with zero regard for parameters of gene or medium. Also, Lebron James is not greater than Michael Jordan.”

He also discussed the book further with Revolver and said he originally had no intentions of releasing a book and that he was thinking of using the title for a “violent solo album.” He added:

“…Thematically, this goes in between the Dillinger record and Black Queen, which sounds insane, but I really do care that this chronology is in place. The one thing I don’t want, is for people to read this and think this is me currently, because that time period was so intense.

There’s a lot of stuff in there that I read now and think, “Good God, man.” It sounds fucking suicidal. I don’t people to think, “Greg‘s gonna jump off a bridge” anytime soon. At the time, I was going through a lot of panic attacks and things from my subconscious that were repressed, childhood type things, were starting to come out. I just needed a release.”

He also talked about the state of his mind while writing the book:

“The end of Dillinger was this black hole that I didn’t know what was going to be on the other side of, and that causes a lot of anxiety. Especially as a singer, a lot of your identity is as the mascot of this band. That fuses to your identity. So when you’re marching to the unknown and know “this is going to dissolve,” you start to realize how much of yourself has fused with that and become the sort of bundle over the last 17 years.

Then you’re like, “Well, what happened to the person before this is what happened and do I have enough of another person outside of this to withstand losing this massive identity?” The singer gets it the worst because they’re the face of the band.

I think that it was a combination of a lot of other things that were happening behind the scenes that were causing me to kind of reevaluate my whole idea of what I thought caused my trajectory in life. Just a lot of shit was happening that was pinpointing me having a lot of anxiety and pretty much endless panic attacks.

The bus accident came at the height of that. When I was already at my worst, like, I was already in really bad shape on that particular tour and I was not in a good place … The bus accident came when I was in the peak of not being in a good place, and it just wrecked me beyond what normally would wreck someone if they were asleep and got hit by a fucking tractor trailer. [Laughs] Which is bad enough.

When you’re having panic attacks a lot, it’s coming out of nowhere and part of what you’re doing is trying to figure out where it’s all coming from, but it’s still hitting you from out of nowhere. You’re in this feeling at all times that you’re not safe. You’re getting blindsided by this energy torpedo.

The bus accident was kind of a physical torpedo that happened while I was already feeling that way, and it just made my whole life feel surreal in a way that I was not used to. And not surreal in a good way, like, “I can’t believe this is happening — the band is kicking ass and this is crazy!” or “I can’t believe we’re on tour with this band!” Those surrealities are positive, but this was like when you’re in a dream with this person you love and that person fucking turns into a monster and blows apart, then all of the sudden it’s horrifying? That’s where I felt at all times.

After that, there were a lot of things that just got worse. I came home and ended up getting on all these anti-anxiety medications and became addicted to them, then I withdrew from them, and it was just getting worse and worse and worse. A lot of when I read this [book], a lot is just like, “Fuck, man.” What a weird place I was in, and like I said, I don’t feel like that at all now.

The title even, before I knew what it was going to mean, now it means something different to me. If you can separate the dawn, literally, and draw a line in the sand between dark and light, or the beginning of a positive time period from the dark night of the soul.

[The title] just came out of me. Now I’m like, “Oh wow, that works out sometimes,” you know, like with ‘Dissociation‘, it was the same way. It didn’t start as Dillinger breaking up, but then we made it and suddenly Dillinger‘s breaking up, so suddenly the title makes a lot more sense. It’s really serendipitous things that I guess kind of make me feel like I’m tapped into what I need to be tapped into.”

He also opened up about the “self-medication” that he was using to face his demons:

“In the past there were things that I really enjoyed that were probably not healthy for me that I dove into wholeheartedly as anything else. There was a period of time where I was really alarmingly self-destructive. I was just like, “Whatever, fuck it. Who cares? I can withstand anything. I don’t give a shit.”

And I didn’t think about why I was doing it. I thought about the fact that I enjoyed doing it. The more reckless I was offstage, the more genuinely reckless I felt onstage. Then obviously with Dillinger, you get rewarded for that, but I had a hard time turning it off.

It wasn’t a performance for me, and it wasn’t something I knew how to turn off. It wasn’t like, “I have this part of me that I need to access and I can safely express it onstage and then I’m going to turn it off.” I would just keep going. And you gravitate toward people who enable that — you start developing a lot of friends who are into that, and the next thing you know you’re doing drugs and drinking and partying and fucking, you know, being out of control but not noticing the signs around you that it might not be healthy.

You’re not noticing the signs around you that it might not be healthy, and you’re not believing that there’s going to be any consequence to it. Whether it’s in your life emotionally or through your neurotransmitters or anything like that … Now that I’ve been through it, I understand that there’s a consequence to these kinds of things just like there’s a consequence to anything.

So what I was using this for, because I had all of this anxiety at the time and I hadn’t been to — and I hate talking about therapy — I hadn’t been to any therapy. I hadn’t had any sort of intense self-realizations yet regarding my life. I was just living like a fucking animal. All id, all instinct. I had a romanticization of that, like I thought it was just part of being an artist and I just believed that I didn’t have to give a shit about motive.

I was using drugs and alcohol and sex as basically anxiety release and self-medication without really knowing it. There were multiple times where I was pretty close to, uh … I had a few, like, overdoses. Whatever. I’ll say what they are. That’s when it first started becoming a lot. There were alarming signs and I was like, “Oh shit.” I’m suddenly aware that I’m mortal and something can go wrong.

But when that’s not happening, you’re in such a state of fucking bliss, and you’re in a state of relief from these things that are bothering you or driving you that you don’t care. You’re just fucking lying on the floor, blissed the fuck out, and you might actually be fucking close to death. You’re with someone or other people that equally as fucked up and you all look like fucking cartoons or zombies at this point, and you don’t even know.”

Greg Puciato Opens Up About The Mental Health Issues He Suffered During The Dillinger Escape Plan’s Final Tour

During a recent interview with Revolver, Greg Puciato opened up about the mental health issues he suffered during The Dillinger Escape Plan’s final tour. The frontman was struggling with a number of problems including anxiety, panic attacks, and hypochondria.

Puciato said the following:

“I was not in the right mindset to be playing shows when we did the last Dillinger tour. I was having a lot of anxiety, panic attacks, hypochondria — all these weird things that I’ve never experienced before. The band was ending and then things just kept happening. I didn’t even think we were gonna get through it.”

He went on to say the panic attacks seemed to surface after the band’s bus accident:

“I tore a quadriceps. See that? [Points to a bump on his leg] I’ve got a bump in my leg that’s like another kneecap. That’s my muscle torn and rolled up. I waited too long to have it fixed, because it basically needs to be sewn back to your kneecap right away. If 72 hours go by, they need to re-tear it and pull it back down.

By the time I got home from Poland, I didn’t want to have surgery right away. I was having all these anxiety attacks and I wanted to be left alone. I got home from the bus accident and was like a leaf in the wind. I got prescribed Lexapro and Xanax because of the level of panic and anxiety.”

Aside from that, Puciato also opened up about Chris Cornell’s death:

“We went out with Soundgarden and things were going well. Then we had like three days off in the middle of nowhere because we were switching off shows with The Pretty Reckless, so I flew home. I went straight to some bar downtown, grabbed a drink and then got a text from a buddy of mine that said, “Cornell?”

It made me think something had happened, but then I was like, “Couldn’t be — I saw that guy yesterday.” So I asked the bartender, “Did something happen to Chris Cornell?” And he goes, “Who’s that?” So I immediately felt old. [Laughs] But I looked him up on my phone and he came up dead.

I went to [L.A. nightclub] the Lash and got more wasted than I got the night of the bus accident, which was more wasted than I had gotten in a long time. I woke up the next morning and I had gotten so fucked up that I couldn’t remember if everything that had happened was real. I went downstairs and turned on MTV Classic.

“Burden In My Hand” was on, so I just sat down and started crying. It was the weight of everything — the band ending, the record, plus the outlook for people with mental illness obviously being fucking terrible, seeing as how a guy who seemingly has it all had to hit eject by himself in a fucking hotel room in Detroit. I just had this feeling of like, “We need to get off this ride.” Everything felt symbolic at that point.”

He also added:

“It’s horrible. He was an addict. He went through it, you know? But I think it’s incorrect when people say addiction is a disease. I think it’s a symptom of trying to cope with something else. Here’s this guy with a beautiful family; he has his band back together, he has a solo career on the side, he looks great, he sounds great — he went through some shit and came out on the other side.

I looked at him on that tour and thought he’d made it over the hump, you know? But then that happened and you realize nothing is as it seems, and this is gonna end poorly for all of us. We’re all gonna be miserable forever or fighting something forever until it gets the best of us. That’s what shook me — not the loss of the rest of the Soundgarden shows.”

The Dillinger Escape Plan’s “Calculating Infinity,“ “Miss Machine,“ & “Ire Works“ To Receive New Limited Edition Vinyl Pressings

The Dillinger Escape Plan’s “Calculating Infinity,“ “Miss Machine,“ and “Ire Works“ are set to receive new limited edition vinyl pressings on November 2. They will be limited to 300 copies and can be pre-ordered via Newbury Comics.

[via The PRP]