If you thought 2020 couldn’t get weirder, think again. During a recent appearance on the “Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli” podcast, Deftones guitarist Stephen Carpenter actually admitted to being a flat-earther and an anti-vaxxer, while also making false claims about COVID-19.
Carpenter said the following when asked if he’s a flat-earther [transcribed by The PRP]: “Absolutely… If you think you live on a spinning, flying space ball, you’re in a cult.” He also tried to cast doubt on the concept of space and space travel saying that “the only thing that was ever launched into space was humanity’s imagination.” He continued:
“The simplest terms for my perspective with flat Earth is simply, I know we’re not on a spinning, flying space ball. Now, what it actually is and all that and, and, and to what depths it goes to, that’s all still to be discovered and people are are working on those things.”
He also discussed a conspiracy theory that suggests that we are all in a simulation:
“If you want to call it simulation. That’s fine, it’s simulation is still implying that you’re not on the flying, spinning space ball, this is some other shit right? And I’m just saying. I’m just saying that you know here in The Matrix where we are, there’s a reality and there is The Matrix right?
Flat Earth is outside of The Matrix, when you’re in The Matrix, you have all kinds of versions of what you think it is, but it’s not. It’s a flat motionless plane of existence. And I don’t know, you can debate it forever, but it will never change the fact that that’s what it is. You know what I mean? And that’s why I was saying…
Initially I said, you know, it’s really hard, um, after you know that, because you are outside of The Matrix. In The Matrix you know, the majority is in The Matrix still, so it’s hard to actually talk to people who want to have serious conversations about subjects that they think they know about but they don’t, because they’re not in actual reality.”
He later commented on vaccines:
“[There’s] never been one single vaccine that’s ever worked ever. All poisons, you can never get it out of your body, [your] body has no means to expel it, it’s stuck in you forever and you just suffer with whatever it becomes.”
Carpenter also discussed the COVID-19 pandemic:
“I’m grateful for COVID, for teaching me the actual germ theory, and that is the virus is something the body creates. You are not not capable of catching a virus from somebody. You develop viruses because you have some type of poison or toxin within you. And that’s your poisoned and toxined cells secreting the virus to clean them from the body.”
“Wouldn’t the homeless population be all you need to know about the virus? I mean, if there was this incredibly deadly, deadly virus going around for this whole entire year, We would have lost everybody on the street by now. I’m sure of it. But in fact we didn’t lose them, their numbers got stronger.”
He also said that he doesn’t mind being around sick people:
“I have hung out with friends who have had colds throughout my life with confidence knowing I never would ever get sick. Because I’ve always believed in the mind over matter you know, ‘I’m not getting sick’ so I never I’ve never felt that, you know. Hell I’ve shared joints with people when we were all sick. Some people even while they had a fucking cold sore, yeah I never got a cold sore after we did that. But everyone’s done it… These are all, you know, we’ll call them virus for the sake of, you know, just the sake of the argument, right? But these are all toxic cells that are released from within you.
Wherever the toxins build up, that’s where it’s gonna have to release, you know? Whatever elements it takes for you to release the cold sore element, that’s what happened. Because I’ve had cold sores throughout my life. And they’ve always come when I’m the most stressed, especially about having a cold sore, so like if you think about the cold sore, oh shit it’s coming.”
You can read more about Carpenter’s insane theories over at The PRP.