Metal Anarchy

During a recent appearance on the “Shawn Ryan Show,” Megadeth’s Dave Mustaine opened up about his time as an early member of Metallica. According to him, he “wrote a lot of their music that made them.”

Mustaine said the following about getting fired following a traffic accident:

“When we decided we were gonna move out to New York, that was because Lars [Ulrich] had found somebody he wanted to manage us, this guy Jonny Zazula, who had Megaforce Records. And [Jonny] heard our demo tape, the ‘No Life ‘Til Leather‘ demo tape. And he lost his mind, just like everybody else in the world. And they wanted to get the band to come out and record a record.

And while we were on the way out there, we got in a car crash. We were driving through the snow. None of us knew how to drive through snow except for Lars, because he was from Denmark. And I’m driving this Ryder truck. It’s a 24-foot truck, and it had a tow bar and it had James [Hetfield]‘s pickup on the back. So when we were driving, we hit black ice and the whole thing spun around while I was driving. And I managed to keep it upright in the middle of the freeway, but the truck stopped and oncoming traffic was coming towards us. And the events that happened at that location… The guy that had produced — I think he produced the first [Metallica] record; his name’s Mark Whitaker. He was the guy that was doing our sound and stuff. He almost died.

I had to push him out of the way, and a truck was to the right or right where he was standing. So if I wouldn’t have seen that truck coming and saved his life, he’d be dead right now. And when we went to the U-Haul place to get our truck, we placed and moved all of our gear into the new truck. James and Lars had made a decision to replace me because they tried to pin that driving thing on me as the last straw.”

He also addressed claims of his drinking being an issue:

“We all drank. That’s why they called it ‘Alcoholica.’ I mean, they didn’t call it ‘Dave-Alcoholica’. We all drank. And they continued to drink like that even after I was gone. But that was, I think, the beginning of the end. And when we got out to New York, I had a reel of tape, this quarter-inch tape, that had probably two days’ worth of guitar riffs on it, just me playing and playing and playing. And we took that tape player and the reel of tape with us out to New York.

We did two shows out there, and after those two shows, they woke me up one morning and said, ‘Look, you’re out of the band.’ And I said, ‘What are you talking about?’ ‘You’re out of the band.’ I said, ‘No warning? No second chance? You’re not gonna give me a warning? You’re just gonna kick me out?’ And I thought that was unfair. And it showed a grotesque lack of character. And so that pissed me off and was a huge part of the fuel.

But at the time, I was really mad and I didn’t wanna forgive them for what they did. And I told them when I left, ‘Do not use my music. And of course they used it. [The] ‘Ride The Lightning‘ [title track] I wrote. ‘The Call Of Ktulu‘ I wrote. Let’s see, what else? There’s ‘Phantom Lord‘, ‘Metal Militia‘, ‘Jump In The Fire‘, ‘The Four Horsemen‘. And I wrote a bunch of ‘Leper Messiah‘ [from ‘Master Of Puppets‘] too.

They didn’t give me credit on that. You listen to the riffs, you know they’re my riffs. It’s, like, you think I’m gonna all of a sudden hear my riff and say, ‘That’s not me.’ So, yeah, I wrote a lot of their music that made them, and all the solos on that first record were mine — the best Kirk [Hammett, Metallica guitarist] could do was try and copy them.”

He continued when asked why the band felt his drinking was a problem even though they were drinking heavily:

“Because when I got drunk, I got violent. James and I had gone out to a club one time. It was the old Mabuhay [Gardens in San Francisco]. It was across the street from The Stone. And we were out front, and some guy came out of the alleyway and he said, ‘There’s a guy beating some girl up in the alleyway.’ And, of course, I being the champion for justice, did not want to hear that and not do anything.

So I went down the alleyway with James, and, of course, James not being a fighter, started yelling out, ‘Kill him, kill him, kill him.’ And the guy comes out from behind a van and he was much bigger than James, and he said, ‘Who’s gonna kill me?’ And James goes — points to me. So I immediately grabbed a guy and put him down in a submission and started rabbit punching him until he stopped moving.

And then we ran out of the alleyway and we stood out front until the paramedics came. And that was it. So I imagine he saw that and he figured, ‘I don’t wanna be part of this. Dave‘s already beat me up back down in Los Angeles, and he’s just too violent.’ ‘Cause James did get a punch in the mouth from me. He kicked my puppy.”

Mustaine then shared more details on his physical altercation with Hetfield:

“I was selling pot for a living, so one time I did a concert and people knew I was on stage, so they just shimmied the window. There was nobody there. They took all my pot, and I was pissed. So I got two dogs. My nephew took one and I took the other one, and I had taken her up with me to rehearsal. And she was playing and she’s looking up at me. I’m standing over here.

Ron McGovney‘s got this really nice GTO and she leans up against the car and puts her paws on the front quarter panel and [James] goes bang and kicked the dog. And I went, ‘What did you just do? What did you just do?’ And it went from the front yard into the house, and there was still stuff being said. And I said, ‘You better shut up or I’m gonna punch you in the mouth. And then Ron McGovney says, ‘If you hit him, you’re gonna have to hit me first.’

And I said, ‘You stay out of it.’ And then James said the same thing: ‘If you hit him, you’re gonna have to hit me first.’ And I said, ‘Okay, you win.’ And bang, I hit James in the mouth, and then I hip-tossed Ron into his television set-up. And that was it. Two strikes and it was over. And Lars was pulling his hair going, ‘I don’t want it to end this way.’

And I thought, ‘You know what? I’ve already told you, it’s either me or James.’ And we did that a bunch of times, ’cause James was doing stupid stuff. And I told James the same thing. I said, ‘Man, it’s either me or Lars, ’cause Lars sucks.’ And I got the axe in the end. So it’s good. Fine.”

He also revealed what he did following his termination:

“I went home and I contacted a friend of mine and I said, ‘I quit.’ She said, ‘No, you didn’t. You got fired.’ And I said, ‘Yeah, I got fired. I quit. I got fired, whatever. I’m back home. Wrong word. [it’s] not changing the outcome.’

And I made sure not to ever say that I quit, ’cause I wanted people to know that I was unfairly dismissed and that I didn’t give a shit. ‘Cause [Megadeth] may not be as big as [Metallica] are. Hell, their biggest song, ‘Enter Sandman‘, go look up the band Excel right now. Look up their song — I think it’s something ‘Into The Unknown‘ [Mustaine presumably meant ‘Tapping Into The Emotional Void‘] Pretty similar.”

[via Blabbermouth]